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At least in everything I heard - in the in the general sense I have - Mark was all about the men being sexually fulfilled - at no point did I hear - nor have generally understood in any significant way - that there was a HUGE focus on women being sexually fulfilled - or related... I heard focus on men receiving oral sex - something not all women enjoy doing - I did NOT hear about men GIVING oral sex - which if done reasonably correct is something MOST women really enjoy and appreciate (and not a few men in giving it...). If anybody knows that Mark's actually emphasis was 50/50, I would appreciate hearing that side....

Cant wait to see it. Love Flannery.

GOD Bless

Just excellent. Thank you, Steve and Marvin.

If the elites and left keep driving this country, in 20 yrs there will not be an independent nation, they will have destroyed this constitutional republic. But there will still be Christians because as Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against his church.

A very good session . I enjoyed Dr. Moorre's appearance in the Christian Nationalism documentaries " Bad Faith & God & Country".

Thou shalt not #kill. (Exodus 20:13) / Thou shalt not [be complicit in #genocide]. More than 14,500 #children killed in #Gaza. The latest #death toll stands at 35,287 #Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in #Israel since October 7. (2024.05.07) 🛐☮❤✝

Why couldnt the Republican party find anyone else. I read the craziest article about how Trump might be in house arrest during the Republican convention

College educated adults are seeing the church as ," white evangelicals, " we here it all the time and every channel. They are smart enough to know the entire Trump mess and mixed with reb and church as the craziness it is. It is heartbreaking.

Well Elevate with Brandon Lake and Chandler more too.. Sing the awesome ," PRAISE! " song.. #1 in billboard almost all year!.. it is great!

Ar the same rate left/left.. went way left and confusing. Like not just gay but ?? Pick what u want to be.. we cant find or meet truth in the middle

Im confused with you stating," I think Jesus is either dead or alive." Im sure u didnt mean it that way. Why? I KNOW JESUS is Alive and believe it.!

All of my main pastors I know or follow and losten to online, state ," The Office as their favorite show!" Oh and " Christmas Vacation as their favorite movie.."..?? Lol

He is right on the first or earliest Christians.. They shared with others. GAVE to each other. I often laugh or smile at the extreme right post of fear of socialism leading to being communist. Then oh my Karl Marx sermons..I dont want to be communist and know we do have some social programs .. Like Social Security.. But if they use any scripture that is very conservative or out of text. ## The Truth is the early christians did share and help one another. Socialism..

Faith do not always work well. It did not work well for Tamar or Cindy Clameshire. 1 Timothy 5 deal with sisters with all purity. Confess our sins one to another. We will judge angels. Restoration must cover victims first and abusers second.

Mark’s hilarious.

Sadly, my first reaction is yet another church?

Wow all about the money. Shame shame

lol. Loved the film, but I keep telling everyone that it should have been 10 hours long. Hawke says “to make a long movie on Flannery O’Connor is to announce yourself as having lost the plot.” Ha ha Okay, how about make a TV series of her short stories, Ethan?? If you read Flannery and don’t feel afterwards that you are so in need of a powerful love to have any hope of saving your miserably broken self, you have not read her rightly, or yourself rightly.

Is Christianity conducive with conservatism, can the most inclusive religion exist in the minds and souls of those who generally want to exclude? Conservatives exclude African Americans, Gay people, those that believe in abortions, and generally most anyone who disagrees with ‘conservative’s view of history’, or any view that doesn’t oppose diversity, equity, and inclusion. The evangelical supports Trump, who opposes and lives a life that is contrary to what they profess to believe. How does conservatism not oppose wrong, how does conservatism not oppose the gun violence of 2024, conservatism opposes ‘fair voting districts’ and is a proponent of restricting rights of others to fit their views. If you view yourself as more than your fellow man, you are taking a position that is not Godly, and if you are superior in your mind you are more than likely conservative. That is why I have become very skeptical of the so called Christian Conservative, or the Christian Nationalist!

Is Christianity conducive with conservatism, can the most inclusive religion exist in the minds and souls of those who generally want to exclude? Conservatives exclude African Americans, Gay people, those that believe in abortions, and generally most anyone who disagrees with ‘conservative’s view of history’, or any view that doesn’t oppose diversity, equity, and inclusion. The evangelical supports Trump, who opposes and lives a life that is contrary to what they profess to believe. How does conservatism not oppose wrong, how does conservatism not oppose the gun violence of 2024, conservatism opposes ‘fair voting districts’ and is a proponent of restricting rights of others to fit their views. If you view yourself as more than your fellow man, you are taking a position that is not Godly, and if you are superior in your mind you are more than likely conservative. That is why I have become very skeptical of the so called Christian Conservative, or the Christian Nationalist!

I just want to follow Jesus and follow the scriptures as they are not as what our culture expects or demands. I want to please God in the end and a part of that is to uphold what He expects me to do. Walk with humility and to live rightly. May God bless everyone.

The heaven and Earth grocery store is a great book!

The issue is pretty simple - after food and lodging, religion is the biggest Market in the world.... And Jesus is the very best product! And there's a whole lot of people who are hucksters who can package Jesus in a neat shiny package that meets a lot of people's needs that religion meets including fundamental human needs - identity, purpose and community... as well as the simple need entertainment. Mark Driscoll was one of those hucksters for Jesus... maybe even in some respects sincere.... but still a huckster for Jesus who had a shiny niftily constructed package of Jesus that met people's needs. The success of such hucksters as Mark - who, as many other hucksters had great entertainment - great story-telling capability - could not be more clear and easy to understand. Addendum After humans are fed and warmed, what then… - they need to entertain themselves…. Music and dancing are good - but not very complete - enter “religion” - which is for the most part the greatest form of entertainment - especially if it has a game-boy (the “sacred” texts) - with which you can play together - and, damn, isn’t it exciting and fun for many… The beat goes on…

I grew up 60 years ago in a world of reality. Now that reality has been replaced with a sureality.

So who is Russell Moore❓. Is he her husband or not❓❓

In short: they let him go unpunished (at least for the embezzlement of funds with the book issue), but they still wanted him as Pastor. Yes, it was a cult, and deprogramming treatment with specialists is necessary...

Wonderful last words- “What does it matter? Grace is everywhere.” ❤️

this first half of the first episode is all i need to hear. the church is lost and christianity is going to be eliminated bc of weak men giving up control to the women.

the church needs controversial men like driscoll. the church needs marketing and branding. the church is hyper feminine. the church is losing men and is weal and shameful. any church and pastor(s) the wore masks, social didtanced and closed during covid is a shame and should close down for good. those pastors are on God's sh!t list.

Any retraction yet from CT of their pro Israel propaganda dismissing genocide in Gaza?

I suspect that accepting the truth is first and foremost. As in, accepting that Israel is committing genocide and that the US is complicit in it. Then condemning it and apologising for supporting it. Then considering what you can do about it. Then offering to help those who are helping the victims.

If a person is convicted of robbing a bank, they are barred for life from ever being even a teller. Why should a stealer of grace be allowed in the pulpit ever again.

Just recently the pastor in the beginning of the episode who defends Mark, Pastor Robert Morris, stepped down from his church. It was revealed he, Morris, allegedly abused a child for 5 years from 1982 to 1987.

The reality is that we have had not quite 50 years of Reaganism and Thatcherism. The anti/pre New Deal ideology behind this has indeed taken us back, in many ways, to the 1920s economically. As a result, look around the world: Far right, and to a lesser extent, far left movements have taken root in ways we have not seen since the 1920s and 1930s. The economic disparities of a century ago have reappeared. The social disruptions of a century ago have reappeared. We have to get past Thatcherism (which preceded Reaganism by three years).

Good afternoon from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Thank you so much for these excellent discussions. First, I have always been impressed that Billy Graham set up his organization whereby his salary was set along with his raises, AND he was never to be alone with a woman not his wife. These two decisions governed a morally upstanding organization. Second, I really appreciated your observations on European politics and how they intersect with America. We are in very tenuous times and need all the spiritual support we can muster. Blessings.

Abuse is rampant and systemic in evangelical Christianity. Christianity Today themselves had a sexual harrassment scandal a few years ago, and we found out that the CT workplace was toxic for women. Young Life had their sexual misconduct scandal in 2021. There was heinous conduct by SBC leaders Paige Patterson, Frank Page, and Paul Pressler. There were Sovereign Grace Ministries, James MacDonald at Harvest Bible Chapel, Andy Savage at High Point megachurch in Tennessee, and Mark Driscoll at Mars Hill. Also Tony Evans. Now Robert Morris at Gateway. And there are so many more. Evangelicals appear unable to do anything to fix this, and so they are now witnessing the growth and flourishing of secular America. It is secular people, not Christians, who are most effectively calling out Christian sexual abuse. Ethical atheists on RUclips, with strong moral reasoning skills, are calling out Christian wrongdoing. They are attracting more and more followers, especially among young people. In these ways, in the departure of many of their members, the disappearance of most of their youth, and the loss of revenue, evangelicals will be thoroughly and justly held accountable for their heinous behavior. Meanwhile, I will continue to advocate for justice for those who have suffered from abuse by Christian pastors, youth pastors, and youth ministry lay leaders. Evangelical Christianity has failed.

Can NDA’s for illegal acts actually be upheld in court?

HIs own quote that "Beth Moore is the gateway drug to feminism" (circa 2006) is just next level. I laughed so hard the conversation stopped hurting for a bit.

To look deep into what has happened in evangelism without not seeing the amazing work God has done is bad resurch. This book written to critique a few leaders failures over the nationals history falls short at best when there have been Hundreds of amazing Christian evangelicals preaching the true gospel. Jesus and John Wayne is so far off on the evangelical world i grew up with books like "Wild a Heart" and " Bringing up boys". They are fantastic books teaching Men to be Men. We as Christian men need masculine leaders that haven't pushovers but truly follow biblical masculinity.. We need men like Paul and Barnabas that stood up to athoritarian dictates. Jesus and John Wayne in no way represent thousands of strong Christian men that protect there familys from the crazy WOKE world we live in. Its good to see many Christian leaders finally standing up against books like this. We need to impowering men to love like Jesus and serve our country. Roman's 13

Thank you for preaching a more compassionate empathetic and loving Jesus. Thank you that I do not have to be a Republican or a Democrat to be a born-again believer in Christ. Thank you that all I have to do is trust Jesus Christ his finished work his death his blood his resurrection. Thank you that there will be no political parties in the Kingdom of heaven

Music, hymns, poetry, and scripture are stored in a different part of the brain than memory and language. After her first stroke, my mother could not make a sentence, but she could sing every hymn she had ever heard. It calmed her when all else failed. She had both expressive and receptive aphasia, so she could not communicate any other way.

Dear SBC, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet." Sincerely, The Apostle Paul

Good morning from the beautiful SF Bay Area. Excellent show, Russell, although I come from a different perspective (I did grow up in an Evangelical clan, father was a Presbyterian minister) it is instructive for me to see how today's churches are grappling with these issues. When I left the church it was after realizing many biblical teachings were badly out of date. My father, God bless him, didn't realize he was trying to keep us "stupid" in the face of modern science. Why is there so much fear around seeing how God the Master Creator actually did it? Five thousand year old folk myths do not hold up against the facts of God's glorious universe. And the sad conflicts around women is just that, sad. The world has changed and we must change with it where it is right, and help guide where it is wrong. I love to hear your perspectives and argue with some of them as I listen. I loved your last book and sent it to my sister who has fallen down the rabbit hole. Don't know if she read it although she said she would. Blessings!

This too shall pass.

2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; Friends,sadly we are here. The precious word of God is all that matters, not the culture, or society. It cuts, like a sword. Sadly, so many unregenerate people fill the pews, and this is what it produces, Bad fruit, from un repentant people Truly pray for those still standing and holding the line.

This guy is promoting some kind of psychological training. Everything he is concerned about is already addressed in the Bible. He has a low view of Scripture.

Sadly, when the largest Protestant denomination in America (the SBC) continues to toss this issue back and forth like a hot potato while in essence doing nothing, I think churches are still light years away from any comprehensive change at the congregational level. What appears to be happening at present is more like a rearranging of deck chairs on the Titanic. There actually seems to be a doubling down on "scriptural clarity" regarding the roles of women as corrupt male leaders are being exposed in ever increasing numbers, and the balance of power is experiencing seismic shocks that are difficult to account for. I wonder how long it will take for the viper's den to be cleaned out . . . I suspect it's going to be a while yet.

A Pastor turned stand-up comedian, turned dictator... a drop in the ocean.

I’m a black woman. Question what is it like for you when you’re the only one of your kind in a room brought unexpected mix of conflicting emotions. I had to think about what i’m feeling. Resentment and anger. Relief. Sadness. Desire to have been asked.